Urban One 2025 Third Quarter Earnings Call - Navigating Political Headwinds and Positioning for 2026 Rebound
Summary
Urban One's Q3 2025 earnings revealed softer-than-expected business performance, with consolidated net revenue down 16% year-over-year, largely due to severe political advertising headwinds impacting core radio pacings by nearly 30%. Excluding political revenue, declines improve to a mid-single-digit drop. The company revised its full-year EBITDA guidance downward to $56-$58 million, reflecting these challenges. Cost reduction efforts yielded $3 million in annualized savings this quarter, supplementing $5 million saved earlier in the year. Despite the current terrain, management expressed cautious optimism for 2026, citing strategic market adjustments, a new Hispanic-focused radio format in Washington DC, and a better-prepared Reach Media division following significant advertiser losses in 2025. The arena of FCC ownership deregulation offers potential future opportunities, but Urban One remains prudent on leverage and transformational M&A, focusing instead on organic strength and selective debt buybacks at a discount. The company ended the quarter with $79.3 million in unrestricted cash and reduced gross debt balances to $487.8 million, maintaining a leverage ratio above 6x based on LTM EBITDA.
Key Takeaways
- Q3 consolidated net revenue declined 16% year-over-year to approximately $92.7 million.
- Radio Broadcasting revenue fell 12.6% year-over-year to $34.7 million; excluding political, down 8.1%.
- Political advertising downturn caused core radio pacing declines near 30%.
- Reach Media segment revenues plummeted 40%, reflecting national sales challenges and advertiser concentration risks.
- Digital segment revenues dropped 30.6%, pressured by declines in political, back-to-school, and PDI-related campaigns.
- Cable Television segment revenues decreased 7%, with subscriber churn impacting affiliate revenue.
- Adjusted EBITDA dropped 44.1% to $14.2 million, with operating income falling similarly by 43.6%.
- Urban One revised full-year EBITDA guidance down from $60 million to a range of $56-$58 million.
- Cost-saving initiatives in Q3 yielded $3 million in annualized expense reductions, adding to $5 million saved earlier.
- Management sees 2026 prospects improving, driven by strategic format shifts including Hispanic-targeted radio in Washington DC and better positioning at Reach Media.
- Company sees FCC deregulation proposals favoring M&A, but no active large deals; focus remains on leverage control and organic growth.
- Debt repurchases continued with $4.5 million bought back at significant discounts, but further buybacks are being paused to preserve liquidity amid market uncertainties.
- Net debt stands around $408.5 million with a leverage ratio near 6.02x, based on LTM adjusted EBITDA of approximately $67.9 million.
Full Transcript
Conference Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Urban One twenty twenty five Third Quarter Earnings Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. We will begin this call with the following Safe Harbor statement. During this conference call, Urban One will be sharing with you certain projections or other forward looking statements regarding future events or its future performance. Urban One cautions you that certain factors, including risks and uncertainties referred to in the 10 Ks, 10 Qs and other reports it periodically files with the Securities and Exchange Commission could cause the company’s actual results to differ materially from those indicated by its projections or forward looking statements.
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I will now turn the call over to Alfred C. Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer of Urban One, who is joined by Peter Thompson, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Wiggins, please go ahead.
Alfred Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer, Urban One: Thank you very much, operator, and welcome, everybody. And as usual, we’re joined by other team members here, Jody Dror, our Chief Financial Officer for TV One and Clio, in case we’ve got some questions on the cable business Karen Wishart, our Chief Administrative Officer Chris Simpson, our Chief Legal Officer and also Veronica Takis, who is our Chief Accounting Officer. And so thank you very much again for joining us this quarter. You’ve seen the press release, hopefully, that we put out. Business came in a bit softer for the quarter than we had been expected across the board.
Our core radio pacings going forward are facing big political headwinds. So looking about minus 30% right now. However, ex political, we’re down to almost mid single digits, down 6.4%, which is better. It’s an improvement. But because the revenues have come in lighter with Q3, we are adjusting our guide for the year.
Last quarter, we guided to a $60,000,000 EBITDA number. We generally usually give a range. We gave a hard number last quarter. We’re adjusting that guide down to 56,000,000 to $58,000,000 of EBITDA for the full year as we come to the close. Within our third quarter and last quarter, I said that we were going to look to do another round of cost saves and we actually did that in Q3, which resulted in about $3,000,000 of annualized expense savings.
This is in addition to the $5,000,000 that we had done earlier in the year. Peter is going to talk about the impact of the numbers in Q3 of that in terms of severance. And so with that, I’m going to turn it over to Peter, so he can go into the details of the numbers and then we’ll come back to Q and A.
Peter Thompson, Chief Financial Officer, Urban One: Thank you, Alfred. So consolidated net revenue approximately $92,700,000 which was down 16% year over year. Revenue for the Radio Broadcasting segment was $34,700,000 a decrease of 12.6% year over year. Excluding political, net radio revenues were down 8.1% year over year. And according to Miller Kaplan, our local ad sales were down 6.5 against the market that was down 10.1%, so we outperformed on local.
And on national ad sales, we were down 29.1% against the market that was down 21.5%, so we underperformed on national. Our largest ad category was services, which was up 22.9% driven by legal services. Financial was up 17.9%, but all the other major categories were down including government, health, retail, entertainment, auto, telecoms, food and beverage. Net revenue for the Reach Media segment was $6,100,000 in the third quarter, down 40% from the prior year. And adjusted EBITDA at Reach was a loss of approximately $200,000 for the quarter.
That was really a lower overall network audio market, lower national sales renewals and probably a drying up of DEI that drove the decline at Reach. Net revenues for the Digital segment were down 30.6% in Q3 at $12,700,000 Direct and indirect digital sales were down by approximately $4,400,000 That decline was the result of decreases in PDI money, back to school, political and overall softer client demand. Audio streaming was down by $1,300,000 year over year. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $800,000 compared to $5,300,000 last year. We recognized approximately $39,800,000 of revenue from our Cable Television segment during the quarter, a decrease of 7%.
Cable TV advertising revenue was down by 5.4%. Total day delivery declined by 29.4%, PE2554, which was partially offset by an increase in CTV and third party platform revenue share. Cable TV affiliate revenue was down by 9.1% driven by subscriber churn. Cable subscribers to TV One as measured by Nielsen finished Q3 at 34,100,000.0 compared to $34,300,000 at the end of Q2 and Clio TV had $33,500,000 Nielsen subs. Operating expenses excluding depreciation and amortization, stock based compensation and impairment of goodwill and intangible assets decreased to approximately $83,700,000 for the quarter, a decrease of 4.2% from the prior year.
There was some noise in the expenses. We had a notable expense decrease in corporate and professional fees and overall payroll expenses, also cable television content amortization was down. But we had the August RMLC settlement with ASCAP and BMI and that resulted in an average royalty rate increase of 20% retroactive to January 2022. So we recorded approximately $3,100,000 of retroactive royalties in Q3, and you see that in the program and in technical expense in the radio segment. We did add that back to adjusted EBITDA.
The company, as Alfred said, completed a second reduction in force in October as part of the ongoing cost reduction efforts. And as a result, we had 1,000,000 point dollars of employee severance costs, which we recorded in third quarter, but we also added that back to the adjusted EBITDA for the quarter. Radio operating expenses were down 5% or $1,700,000 driven by lower employee compensation, sales commissions and a favorable change in the bad debt reserve compared to prior year. Reach operating expenses were up by 8% and that was due to a favorable change in the bad debt reserve that we took in the prior year. Operating expenses in the digital segment were down 2.6% and that was driven by lower employee compensation.
Operating expenses in the cable TV segment were down 2.4% year over year driven by lower program and content amortization due to fewer premier hours compared to last year. Operating expenses in corporate were down by approximately $1,500,000 The third party finance and accounting professional fees were down significantly year over year. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $14,200,000 for the third quarter, down 44.1%, and consolidated broadcast and digital operating income was approximately $20,000,000 a decrease of 43.6%. Interest and investment income was approximately $500,000 in the third quarter compared to $1,100,000 last year. Decrease was due to lower cash balances and interest bearing investment accounts.
Interest expense decreased to approximately $9,400,000 in Q3, down from $11,600,000 last year due to lower overall debt balances as a result of the company’s debt repurchase efforts. The company made cash interest payments of approximately $18,200,000 in the quarter. And during the quarter, the company repurchased $4,500,000 of its twenty twenty eight notes at an average price of 52%, bringing down the gross balance on the debt to 4 and $87,800,000 as of 09/30/2025. Our depreciation and amortization expense increased $4,900,000 as a result of the company’s change to the useful life of TB1 tradenames and our FCC licenses, which we moved from indefinite lives to finite lives. Benefit from income taxes was approximately $1,100,000 for the third quarter and the company paid cash income taxes net of refunds in the amount of $100,000 Capital expenditures were approximately $3,100,000 Our net loss was approximately $2,800,000 or $06 per share compared to net loss of $31,800,000 or $0.68 per share for the 2024.
During the three months ended 09/30/2025, the company repurchased 176,591 shares of Class A common stock in the amount of approximately $300,000 at an average price of $1.75 per share. And the company also repurchased 592,822 shares of Class D common stock in the amount of approximately $400,000 at an average price of $0.73 a share. As of 09/30/2025, total gross debt was approximately 4 and $87,800,000 Our ending unrestricted cash balance was $79,300,000 resulting in net debt of approximately $408,500,000 which we compared to $67,900,000 of LTM reported adjusted EBITDA given the total net leverage ratio of 6.02 times. And with that, I’ll hand back to Alf.
Alfred Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer, Urban One: Thank you very much, Peter. Operator, can we go to the lines for questions, please? Thank you.
Conference Operator: Our first question comes from the line of Ben Briggs with Stonex Financial. Your line is open.
Ben Briggs, Analyst, Stonex Financial: Good morning, guys. Thank you for doing the call. I have a couple of questions here. So first of all, and I know we’re looking forward a little ways, but and we’re only part of the way through the fourth quarter. How are you guys thinking about 2026 and what demand looks like there and what listenership may be kind of how the pieces of the puzzle are going to fit together then?
Alfred Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer, Urban One: Yes. We feel good about 2026 for a number of reasons. One, obviously, we’re going into a political year. But two, a number of the places that we’ve had challenges this year, we have changed our operating strategy to address that. I would say, most notably, where Reach Media has had a very tough year because we got caught flat footed with a big, big decline in our largest advertiser in the company with unexpected cancellations.
And these were cancellations across the board. When I say across the board, across the whole audio sector. And quite frankly, we weren’t able to replace those ad dollars once we had committed that inventory. So we’re able to get ahead of that. We saw Reach Media and iOne had contributed probably excuse me, had benefited the most from the rise in DEI advertising, and we just got way too concentrated at Reach Media with two particular advertisers.
One of those actually stood out more than the other. So we’ll be more prepared for that going forward. This is also our first year navigating Reach without our former President of the Audio division, David Cantor, who actually founded and created Reach. So trying to make that transition was also was difficult even though we knew it was coming and we prepared for it. And so I think we’re better positioned there.
Also, there have been a number of things that we’re doing in our radio markets, where we think that we will perform better, in particular, Washington DC. We just rearranged some of our formats there and we launched a new format targeting the Hispanic community, which is has become a very, very large segment in the DC area. It’s almost close to 20% of the marketplace, I mean, it’s like 18.5% of the marketplace. And we positioned ourselves recently as a major player there, which is going to broaden our offering, I think, in the D. C.
Market, in addition to some changes that we’ve made in terms of management and beefing up our sales staff, etcetera. And so we’ve got a few other changes that we’ve made in some of the markets where we think it’s going to improve performance in a meaningful way as well. And TV One has been holding in there this year. And so we think that given those things I just outlined, we’re feeling good about a rebound in 2026.
Ben Briggs, Analyst, Stonex Financial: Okay. Okay. That’s good to hear and that’s great color. Thank you. Next thing from me, and I guess this is kind of focused on post fourth quarter plans as well.
But are you thinking of any kind of M and A activity or larger than usual kind of I know you guys swap radio stations here and there on a pretty regular basis. But are you thinking about anything more transformative for the future? I know every now and then things get kicked around. I’m just
Alfred Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer, Urban One: curious if there’s anything else. I think everybody in the industry is focused on DREG and what’s going to happen. You’ve seen a number of deals that have been filed already in the radio space looking for waivers to exceed the current ownership caps. The FCC has signaled that they think the ownership rules are antiquated and people in TV and in radio have submitted deals to be approved for waivers. There is also a notice for proposed rulemaking out that I know that the industry is going to comment on if they haven’t already about dereg.
And I think everybody in the industry is going to be pro dereg when I say everybody, I’m sure it’s not necessarily going to be 100%. But that’s going to create some opportunities for people to align assets in markets in a much more efficient manner. And yes, we’re looking at that. There’s nothing that is large and transformative that we’re working on now, because this is all very new. But we tend to try to think ahead and be intellectually creative in what the next move is.
And so all along, we’ve had conversations and thoughts conversations with people about the art of the possible. Because historically, we haven’t been up against the ownership cap. So we probably had the ability to grow or do M and A that others haven’t, even though in a dereg environment that will be enhanced. But what is a governor is leverage and is any transaction going to be delevering, right? And even when you look at these transactions, you’ve got to think about it against a backdrop.
Just because you have dereg doesn’t solve necessarily your top line secular trajectory, right? So you just got to be careful about how you underwrite an M and A transaction. But with that said, I do think it’s going to create some significant opportunities to build stability in these businesses. At the end of the day, these are the radio business is largely a local business. So you’ve got an opportunity to provide more different demographic targets to advertisers, local advertisers.
I think that makes you a stronger player. We’ve seen that in our Indianapolis market, our Houston market, our Charlotte market, where we’ve spread out in different format demographics. And that’s one of the things that we just did, like I articulated earlier in DC that I think is going to not help significantly. So there’s no M and A deal that we are currently working on that’s transformative as we speak, but I’m sure that we will explore opportunities to be able to rearrange the deck chairs in order to make us a stronger entity.
Ben Briggs, Analyst, Stonex Financial: Okay. Okay. That’s all very, very helpful. And then next thing I want to ask about is, I think at the top of a lot of investors’ minds is your debt buyback activity. Obviously, you stated in the press release this morning that you did a little bit of buybacks in the third quarter.
Are you expecting to continue to execute on those debt buybacks?
Alfred Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer, Urban One: Yes. Look, I thought I figured we would get that question because yes, yes, yes, because we’ve been more acquisitive in the past. But because of this heat up in potential dereg and stuff moving around, we decided to sit pat and build a little liquidity as we get to the end of the year, see how that all shapes up and figure out also how that is going to play out. We are always and have been focused on delevering in the best way to delever. So we one way to delever is buyback debt at a discount.
Another way to delever, yes, and we’ve done it a number of times, including in Houston is through delevering M and A activity. So we’ve decided to keep our powder dry a little bit here, to see what opportunities are going to present themselves in the near term.
Ben Briggs, Analyst, Stonex Financial: Okay. All right. That’s extraordinarily helpful. Thank you guys for taking the questions, and good luck on the fourth quarter and going forward.
Alfred Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer, Urban One: Thank you. And
Conference Operator: there are no further questions at this time. I’d like to hand the call back over to Alfred Liggins.
Alfred Wiggins, Chief Executive Officer, Urban One: Thank you very much operator. And again, as always, Peter and I are available for calls afterwards. E mails or calls directed to us. You for your support, and we’ll talk to you next quarter.
Conference Operator: This concludes today’s call. You may now disconnect.