H.B. Fuller Q1 2026 Earnings Call - Supply shock forces 10%+ global price hike, guidance raised as pricing offsets volume weakness
Summary
H.B. Fuller reported a defensible quarter, with adjusted EBITDA of $119 million, margins expanding as pricing, raw-material actions, and Project Quantum Leap restructuring more than offset a 6.6% organic revenue decline. Management flagged a material supply shock from the Middle East, citing more than 40 force majeure notices, and announced a minimum 10% global price increase effective April 1 to protect margins and secure feedstock.
The firm raised 2026 guidance on the back of pricing and expected market share gains, while trimming volume assumptions to down roughly 5% for the year. Management will pause near-term M&A, prioritize buybacks and deleveraging, and position its global sourcing muscle to convert short-term disruption into durable share in targeted end markets.
Key Takeaways
- Organic revenue fell 6.6% year over year in Q1 2026, with pricing up 0.6% and volume down 7.2%.
- Adjusted EBITDA was $119 million, up 4% year over year, and adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 90 basis points to 15.4%.
- Management announced a minimum 10% global price increase, effective April 1, with higher adjustments for certain technologies and regions.
- The Middle East conflict has triggered major supply disruption, with over 40 force majeure notices reported, constraining feedstocks, intermediates, logistics, and energy inputs.
- Company expects supply-chain aftershocks through the year, creating broad-based inflationary pressure and raw material shortages even if the conflict ends quickly.
- H.B. Fuller updated full-year 2026 guidance: net revenue now expected to be up mid-single digits, organic revenue up low single digits, adjusted EBITDA $645 million to $675 million, and adjusted EPS $4.55 to $4.90.
- Volume outlook was revised down, now assumed down about 5% for 2026, with management layering in higher pricing assumptions, roughly 10% or more average pricing for the year.
- Geographic and segment performance: EA up organically excluding solar (EA organic roughly +3% excluding solar, EBITDA margin 19.9%); HHC organic down 10% with margin improvement to 13.9%; BAS organic down 5.1% with flat margins. Americas organic revenue down 4%, EIMEA down 11%, Asia Pacific up 2% excluding solar.
- FX and acquisitions helped results in Q1, with currency a +3.6% headwind to organic trends and acquisitions contributing +0.7% to revenue. Adjusted gross profit margin rose to 31.3%, up 170 basis points.
- Cash and balance sheet: operating cash flow improved by $49 million year over year in Q1; net debt to adjusted EBITDA was 3.1x, stable with year-end 2025, down from 3.5x a year earlier. Management intends to pause near-term M&A, focus on buybacks and hit net-debt target of 2.5x to 3x.
- Project Quantum Leap restructuring is on track, with expected savings increased from $10 million to $15 million for 2026, aiding margin resilience.
- Solar business continues to be a small drag, about $12.5 million of revenue in the quarter and down roughly 40%, representing about a 1% company headwind and about 4% impact in Engineering Adhesives. Management expects the solar impact to be at trough and to wrap by Q3.
- Specific raw-material stress examples include volatile VAM pricing, with European spot VAM up roughly 300% recently; 87% of H.B. Fuller purchases are specialty chemicals, but many feedstocks are tied to crude and LNG flows.
- Management reports early signs of customer reallocation and incremental share gains, citing recent requests from large global customers to supply additional applications; they plan to secure more durable customer commitments by asking for longer term agreements.
- Near-term demand signals: March showed improved revenue and margins, and China Lunar New Year depressed Q1 by roughly $15 million to $20 million, largely offset in Q2. Management is seeing some order pull-forward but is exercising discipline to avoid facilitating hoarding.
Full Transcript
Kate, Conference Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Kate, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the H.B. Fuller Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker’s remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star 1 again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Scott Jensen, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank1: Thank you, operator. Welcome to H.B. Fuller’s First Quarter 2026 Investor Conference Call. Presenting today are Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, and John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. After our prepared remarks, we will have a question-and-answer session. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that our comments today will include references to certain non-GAAP financial measures. These measures are supplemental to the results determined in accordance with GAAP. We believe that these measures are useful to investors in understanding our operational performance and to compare our performance with other companies. Reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure are included in our earnings release. Unless otherwise noted, comments about revenue refer to organic revenue and comments about EPS, EBITDA, and profit margins refer to adjusted non-GAAP measures. We will also be making forward-looking statements during this call.
These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from these expectations due to factors covered in our earnings release, comments made during this call, and the risk factors detailed in our filings with the SEC, all of which are available on our website at investors.hbfuller.com. I will now turn the call over to Celeste Mastin. Celeste?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Thank you, Scott, and welcome to today’s call. In the first quarter, we delivered on our profit commitment and executed with discipline in a challenging operating environment. We continued to expand margins by leveraging our global sourcing strength and maintaining a focused approach to cost and portfolio management. To start today’s call, we will cover our consolidated results in the first quarter. We will also spend significant time discussing the impact on supply chains resulting from the recent events in the Middle East and the actions we are taking to successfully navigate this new operating environment. In the first quarter, organic revenue decreased 6.6% year-on-year as positive pricing was offset by lower volume.
From a profitability perspective, EBITDA of $119 million, which was at the higher end of our guidance range, increased 4% year-on-year, and EBITDA margin expanded 90 basis points to 15.4%. This was primarily driven by continued restructuring savings from Quantum Leap and the positive impact from price and raw material cost actions that more than offset the impact from lower volumes. Now let me move on to review the performance in each of our segments in the first quarter. EA organic revenue increased approximately 3% in the first quarter, excluding the impact of exiting the lower-margin solar business, driven by continued strength in electronics and aerospace. Organic revenue declined 2% in the first quarter, including solar. EBITDA increased 9% in EA, and EBITDA margin increased 120 basis points year-on-year to 19.9%.
Favorable net pricing and raw material cost actions and the benefit from restructuring drove the year-over-year margin expansion. In HHC, organic revenue declined 10% year-over-year, reflecting a challenging environment and a tough comparison to the first quarter of 2025 when the business delivered 4% organic growth. We saw customers maintain tighter inventory levels and consumers continue to shift away from premium products to lower-cost alternatives and smaller package sizes as they manage ongoing affordability pressures. Through disciplined cost management, EBITDA margins were 13.9%, up 120 basis points versus last year, reflecting pricing and raw material cost actions as well as strong expense control. In BAS, organic sales decreased 5.1% year-over-year, consistent with our expectations. The team executed well even under challenging weather conditions.
EBITDA for BAS decreased 1% year-on-year, and EBITDA margins were flat as positive price and raw material actions, as well as restructuring savings, were offset by volume declines. Geographically, Americas organic revenue was down 4% year-on-year. Declines in HHC were partially offset by EA, which achieved organic revenue growth of 8% year-on-year, driven by continued strength in the aerospace and general industries market segments. In EIMEA, organic revenue decreased 11% year-on-year, primarily driven by tighter customer inventory management in HHC, a weak construction market in BAS, and a tough comparison to the first quarter of 2025 when HHC revenue grew over 10%. Asia Pacific organic revenue was up 2% excluding solar, lower than trend due to the timing of Chinese New Year. Total organic revenue decreased 6% year-on-year, including solar.
Now let’s turn to the developing supply chain impact resulting from the conflict in the Middle East and its implication for our business. This is a critical development for our industry. This conflict is already creating significant constraints on raw material availability, with impacts that extend across feedstocks, intermediates, logistics lanes, and energy inputs. We have received over 40 force majeure letters from suppliers in recent weeks, clear evidence that this is a major disruption. Chemical production capacity has decreased significantly and tanker routes have been disrupted and repositioned. Even if this conflict were resolved tomorrow, we would expect supply chain aftershocks to persist throughout the year as inventories rebalance, transportation and logistics normalize, and plants work through restart cycles. As a result, there will likely be significant broad-based inflationary pressure and raw material shortages.
While the magnitude will vary by region and technology, it is clear the system is under stress and volatility will remain elevated. We are taking swift and decisive action by deploying the full scope of our global sourcing and supply assurance infrastructure. Our global sourcing organization was an industry first mover, leveraging our long-established, strong relationships with suppliers and strategic category management. Since the conflict began, they have taken mitigating actions in securing raw materials ahead of the broader market, reallocating volumes across regions, and pursuing qualified substitutes where available. These are the same capabilities that differentiated H.B. Fuller in 2021 and 2022 when we navigated unprecedented volatility and successfully supported our customers.
We have already taken swift pricing action to reflect the increase in raw material prices, announcing a minimum 10% price increase across all product lines globally, effective April first, with significantly higher price adjustments for certain technologies and regions where cost escalation is more acute. These steps are designed to offset supply shock inflation and protect customer service levels. Importantly, the adhesive industry is traditionally one where gaining market share is a function of bringing solutions for new applications. It’s more difficult to take share from established business allocation given the high performance requirements of products and the natural customer aversion to change. In current conditions, many competitors are now confronting real supply uncertainty, creating an opening for H.B. Fuller. In summary, this disruption creates a unique opportunity to support existing customers and gain market share, positioning us for improved volume growth in the future.
Now let me turn the call over to John Corkrean to review our first quarter results in more detail and our updated outlook for 2026.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Thank you, Celeste. I’ll begin with some additional financial details on the first quarter. For the quarter, organic revenue was down 6.6% year-over-year, with pricing up 0.6% and volume down 7.2%. Currency had a positive impact of 3.6%, and acquisitions increased revenue by 0.7%. Adjusted gross profit margin was 31.3%, up 170 basis points versus last year, as positive pricing and raw material actions as well as restructuring savings more than offset volume declines. Adjusted selling, general, and administrative expense was up 4% year-over-year. Excluding the impact of acquisitions and foreign exchange, SG&A was down slightly year-over-year, reflecting diligent expense management.
Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $119 million, up 4% versus last year as favorable pricing and raw material actions and restructuring savings more than offset the impact of lower volume. Adjusted earnings per share of $0.57 was up 6% versus the same quarter in 2025, driven by higher operating income and lower shares outstanding. Cash flow from operations improved $49 million year-on-year. As previously communicated, operating cash flow for 2026 is expected to be weighted to the second half of the year. Net debt to adjusted EBITDA was 3.1 times, consistent with fiscal year-end 2025 and down from 3.5 times at the end of the first quarter of last year. With that, let me now turn to our guidance for the 2026 fiscal year.
As a result of our year-to-date performance and our response to the supply chain disruption Celeste outlined earlier, we are updating our previously communicated financial guidance for fiscal 2026. Net revenue is now expected to be up mid-single digits, and organic revenue is now expected to be up low single digits versus fiscal 2025, reflecting updated pricing actions and anticipated market share gains. We now expect foreign currency translation to positively impact revenue by 1%-2%. Adjusted EBITDA for fiscal 2026 is now expected to be in the range of $645 million-$675 million. Adjusted EPS is now expected to be in the range of $4.55-$4.90.
Net revenue for the second quarter is expected to be up low single digits and adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $175 million-$185 million. We have updated our short-term capital allocation priorities given the current petrochemical market disruption and uncertainty. While M&A remains a cornerstone of our growth strategy and we continue to evaluate strategic acquisitions, we will pause on closing deals in the near term, focusing more cash deployment on share repurchases while we deliver on our commitment to achieve our target of 2.5 times-3 times net debt to EBITDA. Now let me turn the call back over to Celeste to wrap us up.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Thank you, John. Our operational focus is on controlling what we can, leveraging our global sourcing advantage, maintaining commercial discipline, and executing our strategy with consistency. The current disruption further reinforces the importance of a resilient supply chain and manufacturing network. Against this backdrop, Project Quantum Leap is progressing well and remains on track. Our redesigned plant and supply chain network will strengthen our long-term competitiveness and deliver improved profitability. We’ve provided context today on what we expect from the developments in the Middle East. Most importantly, our primary focus remains on our employees, our customers, and those affected by the ongoing conflict. I particularly want to thank and recognize our leaders in the region who have stepped up to ensure the continued safety and well-being of our employees.
Our agility, decisiveness, and collaborative approach ensure we will continue to serve customers reliably and differentiate ourselves from our competition while generating sustainable value for shareholders. That concludes our prepared remarks for today. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Kate, Conference Operator: At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citigroup. Your line is open.
Patrick Cunningham, Analyst, Citigroup: Hi, good morning, Celeste and John. Thanks for taking my question.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Good morning, Patrick.
Patrick Cunningham, Analyst, Citigroup: Morning. I just wanted to start off on the 10% price hike and the, you know, guidance raise, I guess. You know, given this announcement, you know, and pretty sudden raw material constraints and pricing, like, I guess, does your price cost assumption still hold? Are you baking in additional benefits from price here? Just wondering how the cadence of net price, you know, translates to raising the full year guide here.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. Patrick, we’re baking in additional price and raw material benefit, but also negative volume benefit. You know, I think it’s important to take that question in the broader backdrop of what’s happening in the industry. There’s a couple of things going on here that I think are really important. I tried to reference them in the script, but you know, the first thing is that as we look at the landscape that we’re now in, this is a very different adhesive market environment and a one where the, our ability to gain share is enhanced.
I say that because, you know, when you think about how we usually win business, it is by winning new applications with customers that are introducing a new product or upgrading a product or maybe working with a customer that has a problem on their line, or a performance problem in their existing adhesive. Those latter things don’t happen very often. Normally our share gains happen through the winning innovation that we bring to solutions for new products. Now, what’s happened today is that as it relates to the current adhesive allocation, everything’s changed, right? We have competitors that are unable to get raw materials. We have customers that are seeking those raw materials. We are out aggressively doing everything we can to increase allocations, to go after raw material provisions with other suppliers.
That pricing comes in the context of an environment where the market’s really squeezed, but on top of that, the opportunity to bring solutions to customers directly relates to share increase. You know, on top of that, we believe this market reset is a very sustainable place for us to be. I say that because today, if you look at the overall raw material supply base, what you see is that our suppliers have really thin margins. They’re below their reinvestment economics. There’s capacity coming out of the system because their profitability is so low.
What we expect to see is those raw material suppliers to also use this as a market reset, raise the underlying underpinning cost structure within our raw material environment, and thus we felt the need to get out quickly with price not only because we don’t think that underpinning, that raw material cost structure is going to go away. We don’t think that’s going to decline over time, but also we know, we knew we had to be out paying suppliers to get more raw material share than anyone else. Because on this journey to greater market share, the most important part of that journey today is making sure we have raw materials to satisfy our customers with.
The second part of that journey that’s also really important is that not only do we have those raw materials which are going to remain scarce, but that we’re choosing those customers that want to work with us and innovate with us as partners to use those scarce raw materials with. We’re being very selective about where to gain share and how to use those precious resources.
Patrick Cunningham, Analyst, Citigroup: Understood.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Just a little more context as it relates to how we thought about the rest of this year. You’re right, the impact of pricing, raws and volume is driving, you know, probably two-thirds of the change we’re making to our guidance. Just to put it in context, you know, we are now expecting organic growth to be up low single digits, which is roughly, you know, high single digit pricing because we’ll be probably averaging roughly 10% or more pricing in for the rest of this year. We’ve taken our volume assumption down. We were assuming volume would be sort of flat to down 1%. Now we’re assuming it’ll be down 5%.
I would say the way we expect to manage pricing and raws and the expectation that we’ll get some market share gains, that’s probably delivering, you know, maybe $10 million of additional, you know, favorable EBITDA impact this year. The rest of the increase is a number of things. We’re making more progress more quickly on our restructuring actions. FX is a little favorable, but hopefully that gives you some context as to how we’re thinking about the impact of pricing raws and and volume.
Patrick Cunningham, Analyst, Citigroup: No, that’s very helpful. Maybe just, you know, topical with the lower volume outlook. You know, I think HHC previous quarter, you know, you called out some inventory positioning in December, some tighter inventory management. Did that get worse in January and February? Did it start to trend better? I’m just wondering, I think the, you know, organic growth was maybe a bit, you know, sharper decline than we expected. You know, any additional color on, you know, what’s going on in HHC and maybe getting within that?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. In the HHC business, we are seeing a lot of pressure on the consumer, so a few things are happening there. To your point, the inventory management is real. It’s occurring at big customers, but also we really see it in distributors as well. When you think about it, they’re serving the smaller customers. Those smaller customers are really being impacted by tariffs and other inflationary measures. We’re seeing that inventory control for sure. The other thing we’re seeing is that the consumer is switching away from, I’ll call it more premium products. With a premium product, you usually have more adhesive usage. There’s more features and benefits on those products. When the consumer switches down, then we’re selling less adhesive for the end good that they’re buying. They’re buying smaller package sizes.
Again, smaller packages mean less glue, and you see all of that in the HHC space.
Patrick Cunningham, Analyst, Citigroup: Thank you so much.
Kate, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.
Mike Harrison, Analyst, Seaport Research Partners: Morning, Mike.
Morning. Congrats. Congrats on a nice start to the year. I was hoping that you could talk a little bit. I feel like on the fourth quarter call and when you initially gave guidance, there was an expectation that the timing of Lunar New Year was going to be a headwind in Q1 and a tailwind in Q2. I was wondering if you can help us quantify how much that Lunar New Year timing played into the 7% year-on-year volume decline. Maybe also just talk about how you’ve seen activity in China and other parts of Asia coming out of the Lunar New Year, and curious how they responded to kind of the initial impacts of the Middle East conflict.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: We experienced about a $15 million-$20 million revenue impact from Chinese New Year in Q1. You will see that that’s already in our guide for Q2. That ended up just getting pushed out into the second quarter. As we looked at overall Asia’s performance, you know, we had seen China bounce back to double-digit growth. If we extract that impact of Chinese New Year, we would’ve had another double-digit quarter in Asia in Q1. I was just there in January for a couple of weeks. To answer your question about what I saw while I was there and in the region, you know, I see a very motivated population base.
In fact, I think the tariff impact in Q2 and Q3 of last year really caused a pause, but the country was able to quickly reassert new export markets for their goods. In fact, in Q1, our HHC business did very well in Asia Pacific. It was the best-performing region. Part of that was because there’s been such an increase in the exportation of a lot of these hygiene products out of China. You know, we have focused our business in China in HHC away from the lower-cost baby diapers, as I’ve mentioned before. But we’ve also at the same time redirected that capacity to more higher-end fem care and adult incontinence products, and that’s where we saw a lot of growth in China in Q1.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Mike, just to maybe build on that because you had, I think, asked kind of are we seeing this flow through in Q2 as expected. I’d say yeah, the impact to Q1, and I think the impact to Q2 will be as expected, which is, you know, roughly $20 million of revenue. As we look at the first, you know, few weeks of our, what is our period four, we certainly see an increase in activity and volume in China. We actually see a little bit of a step-up in all regions. I think this is in part, you know, customers trying to get out ahead of some of these supply challenges. I do think we’re also getting some additional share because we’ve been able to secure material.
I’d say Q2 in China is certainly playing out as we expected and, you know, we saw a little bit of a step-up here that is probably related to concerns over supply availability.
Mike Harrison, Analyst, Seaport Research Partners: All right. Very helpful. Just in terms of the raw material slate, I know that your slate skews towards specialty chemicals and a lot of those are several steps removed from oil and gas. Just curious if you can talk about any specific materials or buckets or regions where you’re starting to see some concerns about supply availability and maybe help us understand a little bit better the timing of some of this inflationary impact on the P&L?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Sure. As I mentioned in the script, we’ve already received over 40 force majeure notices. Now, a lot of those, Mike, are coming from the Asia Pacific region. Reason for that is because so much of the crude in use in Asia Pacific and in China comes from the Middle Eastern region. You know, the materials that are impacted when I mentioned that we were quick to raise price to try to get on top of these material increases, I’ll tell you it’s ’cause we’re already experiencing higher raw material costs. In some cases, those price increases that I mentioned, you know, they extend from the base level of 10% on up to 40, 50% on some of our finished goods.
You know, there’s examples that abound on different material categories and increases. VAM’s a good example. You know, the spot market in Europe for VAM was up 300% just recently. We have relationships in that particular material class where we have negotiated caps, negotiated extended availability, et cetera. And it goes like that in all materials. We do buy specialty chemicals, mostly. 87% of what we buy is a specialty chemical. Normally, prices are influenced by the supply-demand balance within any one of those material classes. But this is a case where everything is impacted, and it is because so much of the crude feedstocks and even LNG availability has been impacted by this event.
Mike Harrison, Analyst, Seaport Research Partners: Very helpful. Thanks very much.
Kate, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Lucas Bulman with UBS. Your line is open.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Good morning, Lucas.
Lucas Bulman, Analyst, UBS: Good morning to us. All right. Thanks for taking my question. Just, yeah, just sort of follow up on the raw materials to start. I mean, kind of the way we’ve been looking at this at a high level is, you know, if we sort of see oil up 25%-50% on an annualized basis, you know, eventually that’s gonna flow back down to kind of those pet chem intermediates. For you guys, raw is at 50% of your sales. Directionally, that would sort of seem to point to you needing to get kind of 10%-20% of pricing over time to kind of fully offset that. I mean, it’s great you guys kind of gone out proactively with the first sort of 10%.
I was just wondering, is the right way to frame this that is kind of first, a first step in the process, and then as we get further into this year, you will look to kind of go again as you need to?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah, that’s absolutely right, Lucas. We knew we need to get out early, get raw materials. Our team’s been working on material acquisition for this, you know, the last three weeks very aggressively. They saw everything was inflating. It’s not just raw materials, it’s also energy, it’s also freight costs. What we knew was that 10% was a minimum that we needed to do across all materials. The team is also, as we speak, negotiating supplements for various raw material classes on top of that today. Now, again, we wanna be responsible in our pricing. We wanna make sure we can acquire material for our customers. That’s what it’s all about right now is their supply security.
We will likely have other instances throughout the year when we need to reconsider our pricing and look at these underlying material categories and see where we need to do more. But we are right now just at the first step.
Lucas Bulman, Analyst, UBS: Great. Thanks. Then I guess just as we look at the updated outlook for the year, I mean, it sort of seems like it’s kind of implying pricing up 7%-8% and sort of volumes down 5%-6% as you guys talked about. Could you give us a bit more kind of detail on what you’re expecting across the segments on that front? You know, any areas where you’re seeing more or less pressure on the volume side and more or less benefit on the pricing side? Thanks.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Let me just talk about volume really quickly because I think that’s gonna be the most difficult part of this equation. When we think about volume, on the plus side, we know we are going to be taking share. In fact, we’ve already just last week had three large global customers, existing customers, come to us and ask us if we could supply another application in their end product because they were unable to get their other supplier to supply them. That share gain is real, and it’s like I said, it’s an unusual time for us because we get to have a chance to see the existing market reallocated. That’s on the plus side.
You know, certainly, you know, the challenging thing on the volume side. On the negative side will be, you know, hey, what’s going to happen as it relates to overall demand as this inflationary environment persists? Secondly, what we are considering is, you know, how much impact will there be from customers that can’t get other substrates or other raw materials that go into their end product? They may have the adhesive from us, but they’re gonna have to get films and, you know, other components. That’s the uncertain part of the equation.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. I think, Lucas, just to build on that a little bit. You know, I think the impact is going to be relatively similar across the GBUs in terms of the impact on volume. Certainly, if we look at our pricing actions, they’re very consistent. Celeste mentioned in her remarks at the beginning that the similarities to 2021 and 2022, and I think it’d be really helpful for people to go back and look at that period. If you look at the results during that period, we were delivering kind of mid-teens organic growth, about two-thirds of a pricing and a third of a volume.
It was very consistent across all three GBUs, in terms of seeing, you know, improved volume, and improved pricing. In this environment, we’re not counting on that improvement in volume. You know, we know we’ll pick up some market share, but we’re assuming that that’ll be offset by sort of overall demand destruction. But definitely the pricing actions being taken by all three GBUs, sort of support a similar outcome.
Lucas Bulman, Analyst, UBS: All right. Thanks very much.
Kate, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is open.
Kevin McCarthy, Analyst, Vertical Research Partners: Yes, thank you, and good morning. Celeste, can you elaborate on where you see the greatest opportunities to gain share either by product line, SBU or region of the world, I guess would be one question. Maybe related to that, you know, as you suggested, a lot of these FM declarations are coming out of Asia, which tends to be more of a spot market. I was wondering if you can achieve these share gains on a more durable basis rather than a transitory basis. Thanks. Absolutely. Let’s start with that last part. The way our sourcing organization works is, you know, at the beginning of every year, we more heavily contract our raw materials, and leave a less...
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: a lower portion of our raw material sourcing to spot buying. You know, we have very durable relationships, long-term relationships with the supply base, and including, and especially the supply base in China. In fact, interestingly enough, you know, while the U.S. and Europe have very strict rules on how materials are allocated in force majeure situations, that’s not the case in other countries like China. So as we have gone forward, we are committing long-term to these suppliers that are able to supplement our needs today. These are suppliers that over the long haul, whether we’re talking about the U.S. or Europe or Asia, that we work closely with and we have very strong relationships with.
I see this as an opportunity to continue to partner with those suppliers, to continue to partner with our customers, and we will experience an environment where we’re going to have a more healthy industry going forward. If you look at the different business units and where the opportunities are, you know, again, we buy specialty chemicals, but this impact has occurred across the board. You know, I do see quite a number of opportunities to gain share in HHC, certainly, particularly because a lot of the raw material base for HHC comes out of China and is being highly and directly impacted.
We’ve also been very, you know, selective and thoughtful about how we use this opportunity to increase our position in those faster-growing, higher-margin spaces, the more the opportunity where we have a greater opportunity to differentiate ourselves like in EA or in BAS. The team does have targets as it relates to how they’re thinking about this as an opportunity to grow their business, and they’re doing it quite intentionally.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Okay. Yeah, Kevin, I’ll just add one thing, ’cause your question around how do you make the share gains more durable. As Celeste said, we have situations where new customers, and a lot of times previous customers, have come to us and asked us to help out during this period of supply shortage. We’re happy to have, you know, old customers back. We are asking them to sign longer term agreements, right? ’Cause I think that’s only fair that if we’re helping them out in this situation that they’re signing up. The other thing is that it really does, as Celeste alluded, change the playing field, right?
’Cause with this supply shortage, it’s hard to be the low cost supplier in this market if you can’t get the materials and so it kind of collapses the playing field a little bit, which helps us out, the companies like us that compete based on, you know, quality and innovation and premium service. Those are the two things that I think are keys around making these share gains more durable.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: I would think of it, Kevin, like a window of opportunity, a window in time, right? Because right now while there are unmet needs, right, unfilled capacity, customers need material, all the barriers are down to getting share in the existing market. Now, what’ll happen over time is material will, you know, the Middle East conflict will end, material will be more available again, and however, at the same time, that barrier wall goes back up. Because once a customer chooses an adhesive, it works online, they’re likely not to change it unless there’s a performance problem or a manufacturing problem because it’s just not worth the risk.
Kevin McCarthy, Analyst, Vertical Research Partners: That’s very helpful. As a second question, John, I was wondering if you could provide some updated thoughts on your cash flow prospects for 2026, given everything, you know, that we’ve talked about. I imagine you’ve got some upward tension from earnings, but possibly some downward tension from working capital. Maybe you could just kind of talk through how you see the basket shaping up.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Sure. Yeah, we did have a good start to the year from a cash flow standpoint in terms of kind of performance relative to last year, obviously higher income. We are seeing better working capital performance in the first quarter than we did last year, so that’s positive and we’re taking some very intentional actions. We’re confident, we’re comfortable with our guidance, right? It is something we will watch. I think managing inventory will be a little trickier in this environment and I think we’re willing to be, you know, to live with a little higher inventory if it means, you know, helping secure supply assurance. Right now I feel comfortable with it, but it is something we’re monitoring and I would say that, you know, the biggest question will probably be around inventory management.
We’re doing a good job. I think we’ll continue to do a good job, but we’ll need to be a little flexible.
Kevin McCarthy, Analyst, Vertical Research Partners: Great. Thank you.
Kate, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Zekauskas with JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: Thanks very much.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Morning, Jeff.
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: Hi. Good morning. It sounds like you’re doing, you know, very well with your price initiatives. You did change your volume expectations for the year, I think from something like -1% to -5%. Can you expand on the meaning of that change? That is it global economies slowing down? Is it something specific to the health and hygiene and consumables segment? Why does your volume outlook change so much?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. It is a balance, Jeff, of three things. One is the positive impact of gaining share. The second is the negative impact of our customers potentially not being able to get other materials, other substrates to produce their product with. Then the third is some erosion in global demand because of this inflationary environment. We believe the three of those things are likely more net negative than what we felt like coming into the year, given this uncertainty. I think we need to be cautious as it relates to volume.
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: Obviously Europe has been the geography where natural gas prices have really risen and fuel prices have lifted. Is Europe the area of particular concern or is it more broad-based?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: No, it is broad-based. I would say it’s very broad-based. I do think that given the strides that the U.S. has made in becoming more energy independent, that it may not be as bad here as it will be in, certainly, Europe. Asia is still a question. Again, getting feedstocks in Asia is the most difficult right now.
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: Mm-hmm. Okay.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Jeff, one other thing.
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: Right. Yeah.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Jeff, one other thing to keep in mind when I say this, you know, again, on average, we produce 97% of what we sell in a region for the region. In the U.S., that’s 99%. Again, you know, I feel like the U.S. is gonna be a little more self-sufficient than some other parts of the world. I wouldn’t say that any part of the world looks very good right now.
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: Lastly, can you comment on two more issues?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Sure
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: which are your overall, cost reduction aspirations, both what you achieved in the first quarter and what you expect for the end of the year? Then secondly, can you comment on your solar related revenues and what the decrements are there, if that’s the right way to describe it?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: I’ll take the cost reduction question, and John, maybe you can address solar. On the cost reduction question, we came into the year anticipating $10 million of benefit from Quantum Leap. We’re increasing that to $15 million this year, given this reduction in volume and our decisions that are underway right now to continue to reduce costs to offset that.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. Jeff, you’d ask about the impact of solar, which was about $12.5 million of revenue in the quarter, and that compares, and that’s probably down 40%. I think the impact from an overall company standpoint is about 1%. For Engineering Adhesives, it was about 4% impact. Then I apologize, I forgot what the other item was you asked about.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Oh, I answered it.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Okay. You got it? Okay.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Okay.
Jeff Zekauskas, Analyst, JPMorgan: Okay, good. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Sure.
Kate, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank: Hi, this is Emily Fusco on for David Begleiter. Could you maybe just give some more color on order trends exiting Q1 into March and kind of what you’re seeing in terms of visibility given the uncertainty? I know you mentioned some uptick in China, but have you observed any pull forward in demand or pre-buying in other regions or anything to call out by segment? Thanks.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Sure, Emily. In March, what we’re seeing is a higher revenue, so we have a good start on March, and we’re also seeing improved margins in March. Now, of course, some of that is related to Chinese New Year and the bounce back that happens afterwards. I’d say we’re seeing customers that are anxious to get their orders in. We’re not, you know, we’re avoiding filling orders far in excess of prior years’ demand. The team’s been really judicious about ensuring that we’re not facilitating any hoarding. I don’t think we’re seeing that yet, but it has been a robust month.
Kate, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ghansham Panjabi with Baird. Your line is open.
Josh Vesely, Analyst, Baird: Hey guys, good morning. This is actually Josh Vesely on for Ghansham Panjabi. You know, maybe if I could just ask one quick one here. You know, I think in response to Jeff’s question, you talked about, you know, some of your customers not being able to procure raws to build some of their products. Can you just give some color on, you know, what specific GBUs, you know, might be seeing an impact there, more so relative to others? Yeah, just any color there would be great. Thank you.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Josh, we’re not seeing it yet, we’re anticipating it. I say that because when you think about polyethylene, polypropylene, you know, they’re in so many, just such a variety of goods. We haven’t. Like, I haven’t heard yet of an instance where we have a customer that’s unable to get their substrates, but we’re anticipating that there will be some impact of that. Again, you know, that’s an environment where we work very closely with our customers because the likelihood when they change their substrate is that they’re going to need a different adhesive, because adhesives are really so substrate specific.
You know, we’re anticipating that we will see that and that we will be working closely with customers to reformulate our products or support them by introducing new products to be able to enable them to get a finished good to market.
Josh Vesely, Analyst, Baird: Okay, great. That’s perfect. Thank you very much.
Kate, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Rosemarie Morbelli with Gabelli Funds. Your line is open.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Good morning, Rosemarie.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: One area we haven’t touched on is your latest acquisitions. Well, could you give us an update on the medical grade adhesive performance of the last acquisitions? This is a category that you are adding to previous acquisitions. Could we also have a ballpark number for the size of this entire entity?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: I’ll speak just to the medical business, Rosemary. In Europe in particular, this quarter was another good strong quarter. Our medical business in Europe was up almost 20%, again, organically. We continue to see performance out of that business. We don’t identify the size of any one of our market segments. Admittedly, the medical business is still small, but you can see it’s growing rapidly with performance like that.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: Expect that particular category to be affected by the price of oil, or it is so specific that it won’t make a difference.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: You know, the amount of material used in those goods is really small. So you know, it’s a lot of cyanoacrylate. Raw material base is significantly comprised of cyanoacetates. You know, and it’s just compared to the industrial use of those products, the medical use is much smaller. That’s one area where we’re gonna see less of an impact.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: Okay. If I may follow up on a couple of questions. The solar comparison. When are you going to be at the level where it doesn’t make any difference, you have reached the bottom of that particular business?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. We’ll be wrapping that around by third quarter.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: Okay. Should we expect similar impact in the next two quarters then?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. We’re already at the trough revenue we expect there, so it’ll run right at about this level.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: Okay. If I may, that 20%-
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Sure.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: EBITDA margin that you are targeting, in this environment, can you still get to it by 2029, or maybe it has been pushed out another year?
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: We can still get there.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: not guiding. Okay, thank you.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: No, we’re still really right on track, Rosemarie. Our objective for this year is to maintain margin. You know, we got out, you know, really early to make sure we were not gonna see a big raw material margin lag impact. We’re really working hard to deliver on that 20% commitment over time.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah. I think we said by 2028, and I think that’s still our
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah.
John Corkrean, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, H.B. Fuller: our target.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Yeah, it was 2028, Rosemary, not 2029.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: See, I was already giving you a year.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: I know. I should have run with that, but no.
Emily Fusco, Analyst, Deutsche Bank0: All right. Thank you very much.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Thank you.
Kate, Conference Operator: I will now turn the call back to Celeste Mastin, the President and CEO, for closing remarks.
Celeste Mastin, President and Chief Executive Officer, H.B. Fuller: Thank you all for joining us this morning. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.
Kate, Conference Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today’s call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.